Users/groups setup under new license

We currently use BO XI R2. Under our current license, only 20 people have access to create/view… WEBi reports. As a result of increased demand, management decided and purchased a new license - BOE Premium (CPU) XI3_1. As you can tell, it’s for Release 3. Is it going to be a problem as we use XIR2?

If it’s not a problem, the licese would allow as many users to view WEBi reports as CPU can handle. Could anyone let me know the process to set up new users/groups under new license?

Thanks!!


btmuser (BOB member since 2009-05-06)

I do not believe R3 license keys will work for R2.

Once you get a proper key, just enter in the CMC and then you can add whatever users you want.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Thanks for the info!!

According to the management, the new license only allows users to VIEW report, which is different to our current license. Is the setup process different in this case, anything I should be aware of?

Thanks!!


btmuser (BOB member since 2009-05-06)

Yes, you’re going to have a problem. Someone will need the right to create/edit.

YOu’ll have both licenses on the system. You will have to set up user rights to prevent them from doing what ehty shouldn’t. I don’t believe the software will stop them.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

We’ll be setting up brand new users/groups under new license. Hopefully, this wouldn’t impact our existing users.

The new license we bought is CPU license. I think I should set them up as concurrent users. :?:


btmuser (BOB member since 2009-05-06)

Concurrent or Named doesn’t matter. Concurrent is a hold over from when they sold concurrent user licensing.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Thanks.

Based on other’s posts, I thought concurrent means the number of users can be connected at the same time, whick seems like the choice under CPU license.


btmuser (BOB member since 2009-05-06)

No. There used to be 3 types of licensing: Named user, Concurrent user and CPU.

CPU is unlimited users, but the hardware is restricted. Named is 1 license per actual perso, but you can use as much hardware as you like. Concurrent, for a restricted number of users using the system at a time, but on as much hardware as you want.

The only thing I don;'t like about CPU is that you have to be licenses for development.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Could you explain ‘hardware is restricted’ and ‘can use as much hardware as you like.’?

Thanks!!


btmuser (BOB member since 2009-05-06)

Concurrent user Licenses are again available if you qualify for BO Edge.
Historically you where supposed to have only named or CPU and not a mix (but we all know they have existed in the same deployment)

Another Issue I have with CPU is that 1 CPU is not 1 CPU. The rules about Cores of the CPU keeps on changing and the technology even faster now we have quad core and 8core and beyond on the way. In many cases SAP will ask you to license for these cores and not CPU’s. Depending on when you bought there was also a cap on the number of users one could define by CPU bought in general 500


ClaireB :de: (BOB member since 2002-08-09)

OK…

When you have CPU licenses, you can only run on the number of CPUs you have purchased. You can’t just add servers/CPUs when you run out of capacity. If a server has 4 CPUs, you need a 4 CPU license. Your sales rep will tell you how multi-core CPUs are licensed. I believe each core counts as .75 CPUs. So a Quad dual-Core server requires 6 CPU license. But, that’s how it was a few years ago.

On the other licenses, you can add as many servers/CPUs as you want. You are paying for users.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Steve,

I am sorry for this out of topic question. Why / How do you calculate this?

I remember reading this in other post also where Dual Core was considered as 1.5 CPUs.

Thanks
Viru


viru4808 :australia: (BOB member since 2008-01-09)

If a Dual core is 1.5, then each core is 1.5/2 = .75

Thus a Quad Core counts as 3.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Steve,

I think i was not clear enough. My doubt is why would you consider a Core as 0.75 instead of 1.0?? :crazy_face: :crazy_face:

My question is why think of Dual core as 1.5 instead of 2.0. I hope am clear this time. :mrgreen:


viru4808 :australia: (BOB member since 2008-01-09)

The 0.75 is a number invented by BO/SAP

Hpyer-threading was 0.5

The assumption was that cores would not be as powerful as a full CPU’s.

Here again technology changes faster than the sales rules


ClaireB :de: (BOB member since 2002-08-09)

Thank you Klaus and Steve for sharing this information.


viru4808 :australia: (BOB member since 2008-01-09)

One more question about license types. I came across some previous posts, it seems licensing are categorized by products as well? Such as license for WebI report, etc. :crazy_face:

Thanks!!!


btmuser (BOB member since 2009-05-06)

Yes, that’s true. Everyone has an Infoview license. There there is WebI Interactive, WebI Edit/Create, DeskI, Crystal.

I’m not up on the new naming, but I’m sure these are all still separated.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Steve: With that being said, how do named license, CPU license … relate to WEBi license, InfoView license? :crazy_face:

Thanks!!


btmuser (BOB member since 2009-05-06)