Reporting on BI Cubes

Hi All

I have build OLAP Universe based on BW cubes and reporting on the Universes using Web Intelligence.

When i pull arpund 4 Dimension objects in the Select panel and hit on Run Query, it takes around 10-11 mins and gives me the message No data to retreive. But when i run the same query immediately it gives me the data in 2-3 secs. This happened everytime when i try to pull objects in the query panel.

Has anybody faced this kind of pattern while reporting on Olap Universes. Please let me know as this has been a long standing issue.


chetan.mudike :us: (BOB member since 2008-02-13)

Just to be clear, you create the query and run it. After 10+ minutes you get the No Data to Fetch message. If you then immediately rerun the same query, after a few seconds data is displayed. The difference in time could potentially be explained away by database caching…but as to why you don’t see the information first time around…my initial thoughts would be some kind of connection time out, which isn’t manifesting itself in the usual way. Any time limit set in the universe (File / Parameters)?


Nick Daniels :uk: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

Hi Nick!!

Thanks for you reply…

Yes you have got the issue right…

I have checked the paramters in the Universe end and a the CMC level as well and everything seems to be fine. But if the query is running beyond the allocated time it should be giving a different error message like Session Time Out or something.


chetan.mudike :us: (BOB member since 2008-02-13)

[quote:9b8480b644=“chetan.mudike”]But if the query is running beyond the allocated time it should be giving a different error message like Session Time Out or something.
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I agree. But given the peculiar behaviour you are experiencing, why not up those limits well beyond the 10-11 minutes you mentioned to see if that resolves the problem. That gives you a workaround while you investigate further.


Nick Daniels :uk: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

Hey Nick!!!

I do agree with you. But the query should atleast return the partial results if run in 10-11 mins.

Is there anything to be done on the BI or BO front?


chetan.mudike :us: (BOB member since 2008-02-13)

Run a trace on the SAP BW side!
I also hope you are not going directly against an Infocube, but use a tailored BEX query for your universe instead.

Which version of BOE and SAP Netweaver are you using?


Andreas :de: (BOB member since 2002-06-20)

Hi Andreas

We have built the OLAP Universe on the Infocube as the customer wanted his adhoc analysis on a wider range of data.


chetan.mudike :us: (BOB member since 2008-02-13)

Hi All

Has anyone experienced such kind of issues? Or has a solution for this… :hb:


chetan.mudike :us: (BOB member since 2008-02-13)

Hi, I’ve been creating reports with universes created on infocubes, and bex queries, and have NEVER seen this happen.
Check your universe connection parameters, row limits especially. Then I’d suspect something on the BW side. Try recreating the same universe using a different userid/pass to see if it does the same.
Good luck!


Xavier :ireland: (BOB member since 2006-12-18)

Hi Xavier!!!

Thanks for your reply.

Things have actually improved a bit, Previously when the report used to run for 10-11 mins it would give me the error ‘No Data to Retreive’. I had removed the restrictions on the universe parameters and now the query is running for ~7 mins and fetching the data. Is there anything else that can be done at the WebIntelligence Server Properties on CMC.

What does the parameter ‘Server Polling Interval’ mean?


chetan.mudike :us: (BOB member since 2008-02-13)

Again, which version of BOE and SAP Netweaver are you using?
You should be on BOE XI R3 SP2 and SAP Netweaver 7.01

How many Key Figures do you have in your Infocube, etc?


Andreas :de: (BOB member since 2002-06-20)

Hi Andreas

I need to check with the version.

By the way we are having more than 30 Key Figures, but how would this help in analyzing the performance.


chetan.mudike :us: (BOB member since 2008-02-13)

Hi Chetan,

I too faced this type of problem many times and now also facing.

Today i run it’s happening like that when i ran the same next day am seeing data :hb:

I think it behaving like that because of Navigational attributes of BW- InfoCube and if you run query without Measure object then also same message one can see.

Still am also fighting with that…
:arrow_forward: :arrow_forward: :arrow_forward:

Thanks


BOCP (BOB member since 2007-07-02)

HI…

So…I am glad I am not the only one facing this issue. :wink:

I have checked some forums on SAP Community Network Forums and i see that there is a SP2 for BO XI 3.0 version and if it is on BO XI 3.1 there is FP1.3 which would resolve Performance Issues with WebIntelligence on OLAP Cubes.


chetan.mudike :us: (BOB member since 2008-02-13)

It’s best practice to put your universe on top of a BEx query rather than the cube itself. Also be sure to check out all the sap notes, as there have been several improvements in this area since last year, on both the BOBJ side and the BW side.


SteveBickerton :canada: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

Please let me know from all of you:

One can design Universe on BEx query only , right? by Enabling OLAP form extended properties for Infocube and MultiProvider?
How to directly use Infocube without BEx query??

Thanks


BOCP (BOB member since 2007-07-02)

One can create an SAP OLAP based universe either from a BEX query (recommended) or directly from an Infocube (you will just browse to the Infocube when creating the universe connection, it is rather straight forward).

Keep in mind that an Infocube is a bad choice, performancewise as featurewise, as many features do not exist at the Infocube level such a calculated key figures, etc.


Andreas :de: (BOB member since 2002-06-20)

Thanks Andreas.

We are using BEx master query as source to design Universe only.(Recommended by BO also). But still facing lots of problems while working on it.
BO needs to take care of whats going on…

Thanks


BOCP (BOB member since 2007-07-02)

Who’s Steve?.. :wink:

And what kind of problems are you referring to?
Which version of BOE and SAP Netweaver are you using?


Andreas :de: (BOB member since 2002-06-20)

This is an old thread but I thought I’d add that we’re observing a similar issue at a client:

I’ve scaled down a large sales WebI report that the client has been struggling with performance-wise. The first time it’s refreshed, it will process for a while and then return with “No Data to Retrieve”. I’ll refresh it again immediately after and it will return with data in just a second or two.

You can do this all day long… no data, data, no data, data, etc.

This is the environment:

BOE 3.1 SP4
BW 7.2

I’m told the underlying BEx query is pretty large, with probably > 50 “key figures”. The universe has no timeout restrictions (Limit Execution Time is not checked).

As bugs go, this is pretty bad because receiving a “no data” message is different than an error and can be misleading.


wrob :us: (BOB member since 2005-07-13)