Licenses

If you have one installation of Business Objects full client, what licenses would you expect to have e.g. Reporter / Explorer / Infoview?


Mark Newman (BOB member since 2002-08-22)

Those would be the 3.

Infoview - Read and Refresh
Reporter- Build your own queries
Explorer - Drill Down and slice and dice.

But, you’d need a Designer license somewhere to build universes. And a Supervisor if you have a repository.

What’s the real question?


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Tech support :wink:

According to Business Objects we have three! support contracts for licenses bought from different re-sellers. One of the contracts is just for infoview and reporter licenses. So now I’m trying to work out how the licenses we have relate to the installations we have. We also have some licenses for end user bundles and an IS bundle. Does anyone know what they are?


Mark Newman (BOB member since 2002-08-22)

Since everyone has to own Infoview, there are 2 end-user bundles. 1 for WebI and 1 for full-client. They consist of Reporter and Explorer.

An IT bundle (used to be IS bundle) is Designer and Supervisor.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Thanks for the info Steve.

Can I just check something though. Your first reply said that for each full install of Business Objects requires an infoview, reporter and explorer license. Is this correct?

The only reason I ask is that one of our support contracts is for 6 infoview licenses and 6 reporter licenses. How does that tally with the above? :confused: Does that mean that they shouldn’t be slicing and dicing? Another support contract is for 10 infoview, 10 reporter and 10 explorer licenses.

Any help gratefully received.


Mark Newman (BOB member since 2002-08-22)

Everyone MUST have Infoview. You can add on Reporter and/or Explorer.

Your first group of 6 do not have Explorer. They should not be drilling. They can use the Slice and Dice Panel.

Your other 10 licenses are for everything.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

I think that Slice & Dice comes with Reporter, not Explorer.
Explorer allows drilling and multi-dimensional analysis.

Or I am going craaaaazy ??? :crazy_face:

Pierre.


Pierre :luxembourg: (BOB member since 2002-09-05)

That’s what I said. Slice and Dice used to be part of explorer.

Everything the slice and dice panel does can be done using the mouse. I never use the panel and haven’t for years. That’s why they moved it. It doesn’t have the value it used to. All of it’s functionality is already in Reporter.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

OK, got it.

I didn’t know that this functionality had moved from Explorer to Reporter, but indeed, its value-added is no that big since everything it does can be done with the mouse.

Thanks for the clarifications.


Pierre :luxembourg: (BOB member since 2002-09-05)

I wouldn’t throw away the Slice and Dice so quickly. I always have trouble with pivoting without the Slice and Dice panel. I can’t seem to make the mouse do what I want with pivoting. :shock: I think I only got it to work once. I think new users will probably fine it easier until they get use to pivoting with a mouse. Except for pivoting everything else can be done without Slice and Dice easily.


kmahler :trinidad_tobago: (BOB member since 2002-07-29)

:yesnod: Agreed. We discussed the merits of slice and dice recently.


Cindy Clayton :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-11)

Just for the record, although I prefer slice and dice, you can select ‘Table’ from the ‘Format’ menu then go to the Pivot tab…try it - you might like it 8)


Nick Daniels :uk: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

I tried a setup from the CD, with only installing for instance Explorer (or Reporter) without Reader (sometimes called Infoview, but the component in the Setup screen is called Reader).

And it works ! :!: The Setup allows me to only install Explorer, and when I afterwards run BO, it shows up like Reader AND Explorer were installed :blue: . Though, if I then come back to the Setup, the “Remove components” part (on the right side of the dialog box) clearly shows that only Explorer has been installed, not Reader.

So, I’m getting very confused with this :hb: . My guess is that even if the Setup says the contrary, Reader is installed too, and then I do have to pay to units, one for Reader and one for Explorer.

Can anyone confirm this please ?


Pierre :luxembourg: (BOB member since 2002-09-05)

As a test I took one of our machines which had the full client installed and using setup removed the explorer component. I can confirm the the slice and dice panel was still available but all of the drill down menu and functions were removed. So I guess that explorer isn’t required for slice and dice (via the slice and dice panel) but it is required for drill down.


Mark Newman (BOB member since 2002-08-22)

Without considering the licenses needed for the server products, how many licenses are needed if a user (with rights to edit either WebI or FC reports that have been published to Corporate Documents) decides to download both the WebI and ZABO products? I was thinking 2, one for WebI and one for ZABO, but I’m not sure.


John Phillips :us: (BOB member since 2002-10-01)

There are 5 possible licenses

Infoview

BO Reporter
BO Explorer

WebI Reporter
WebI Explorer

So, basically, you’re assumption is correct. From a pricing standpoint, BO doesn’t generally charge you full-price for the second license. But, that’s between you and your sales rep.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)

Actually, I think that’s covered under the Dual Platform license. It’s one license for both the Webi and the ZABO products.

Dave


Dave Rathbun :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-06)

I believe it’s either of the above scenarios (1 of each type, or 1 “Dual Platform” license), depending on what one’s purchased. I think maybe John just needs to sit down with his account manager.


Anita Craig :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-17)

Thanks Anita. Probably would be a very wise decision since we are issuing userids like candy during Halloween :rotf:


John Phillips :us: (BOB member since 2002-10-01)

John, if you are using “named user” licensing, then you need to make sure that each has the rights.

If you have a Dual-Platform Server. You can stuff as many as you want (also depending on your license) on a server. Dual Platform means you can use ZABO or WebI. But full-client is not allowed in a Dual Platform Server license.


Steve Krandel :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-25)