Installation location for respository and FRS's

I think I have a basic understanding of the new Central Management database and the input and output FRS’s. I did a search for info on repository file folders but I didn’t find the answer to my question. Can the CM database be located on a different machine than the input FRS and the output FRS? If I put the CMD on machine A, can I put the input FRS and output FRS on machine B? If so, does the install script ask for the path?

I ask because we are considering installing the CMD on a centrally managed database server. I don’t think the DB managers would be willing to also host the file structure. Not their mandate. If the answer is that both the CMD and FRS’s have to be on the same server then that would indicate that we can’t use the central service but have to manage the database server on one of our own machines. We have this decision to make and my boss wants to know. I searched the documentation I have (installation guide, deployment guide, administrator’s guide) but couldn’t find the installation locations stated explicitly.

Anyone?


Debbie Kelly :us: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

The correct term is CMS database and Input FRS and Output FRS :wink:

All of these components could be hosted on separate servers.
Typically the CMS database is hosted on a dedicated DBMS server (such as an Oracle database server), both FRSs are typically hosted either directly on the BOE server or on a SAN.

Important is that the BOE server can access the CMS database and FRS quickly (meaning same subnet, low latency, etc.).

You can re-configure these for example via the CCM (after initial installation): stop the services: CMS, Input FRS, and Output FRS, then configure the proprties of these BOE services.

During the initial install it should ask you for that information.


Andreas :de: (BOB member since 2002-06-20)

Thanks, Andreas. I suspected I could install these components on different machines, but couldn’t find confirmation of that in the documentation.


Debbie Kelly :us: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

In line with this question…

My Input and Output FRS will not start. They are set to log-on as Administrator and are enabled via CCM.

I was told in a previous post to make changes via CCM, by clicking on the server name for each FRS, after the services In and Out FRS and CMC were stopped.

I cannot click on the server name in CCM to edit the properties of the file store location either.

The status of both FRS’:

IS enabled
not started.

I searched my server for the Input, Output and Temp folders supposedly created by default and much to no avail.

How do I post-install create and configure the 2 necessary FRS’?

Thanks.


sassydatachic (BOB member since 2008-01-31)

Just to confirm: you have only 1 Input FRS (lets forget about the Output FRS for a second) and that has the status in the CCM of “stopped” (not “running” and not “stopping”)?
If you double check that status in Windows Services there you also see the Input FRS service stopped?

And when you rightclick the Input FRS, in this ‘stopped’ mode, and select properties you cannot edit anythhing in the following screen? you should really be able to edit the command line (4th row) as that should not be greyed out.


Orange :netherlands: (BOB member since 2006-09-18)

Thanks for responding.

Yes. Input FRS is not running or stopping but stopped. It also shows as stopped within Windows Services.

I misstated what I can editted. You are correct in that I can edit the command line.

I did not have a FileStore directory with Input, Output and Temp folders by default during the installation. I created those but am not entirely confident in repointing. I tried to append this directory using command line entry -rootdir followed by

C:\Program Files\Business Objects\BusinessObjects Enterprise 11.5\win32_x86

Was this correct (as a secondary question), as I did it based on other BoB entires? It didnt change anything. But I dont know if my command line string was correctly formatted, anyway.

If you could provide the command line string that would be great.
Thanks,

laura


sassydatachic (BOB member since 2008-01-31)

Sure -

Default locations are:
Input FRS = %INSTALLDIR%\BusinessObjects Enterprise 11.5\FileStore\Input
Output FRS = %INSTALLDIR%\BusinessObjects Enterprise 11.5\FileStore\Output\

There are thee ways of changing the default value for the FRS Root Directory:

  • Central Configuration Manager
  • Central Management Console
  • Windows Registry

Setting the Root Directory in the command line of the FRS will override the setting in the CMC and Windows Registry. And if the BusinessObjects Enterprise deployment has already been used, do not forget to move the content of the old FRS root directory into the new one

Central Configuration Manager method:

  1. Start Central Configuration Manager (CCM)
  2. Stop appropriate FRS and click on “Properties” icon in the toolbar
  3. Add –RootDir at the end of the Command, e.g.:
“<ServerName>\C$\Program Files\Business Objects\BusinessObjects Enterprise 11.5\win32_x86\outputfileserver.exe” -service -name <FileServerInstance> -ns <CMSClusterName> -restart -RootDir “D:\BO FRS\Output” 

Note that the folder must already exist. So create manually before starting.
4. Start the FRS


Orange :netherlands: (BOB member since 2006-09-18)

That did it!

Thank you kindly,

Laura


sassydatachic (BOB member since 2008-01-31)

Our current setup has the FRS on the BO server. If we decide to change this to a SAN at a later date do we have to move all of the existing files from the the current FRS location to the new one?


genoveg (BOB member since 2007-08-27)

That is correct.


Andreas :de: (BOB member since 2002-06-20)

and don’t foget to update the paths in CMC.


substring :us: (BOB member since 2004-01-16)

So just to make sure I have the process right we change the file paths for the Input FRS and Output FRS in the CMC and then we take down the server, move the existing files to the new location, and then restart the server. Is that all I need to do or am I missing a step?

Thanks for your help!


genoveg (BOB member since 2007-08-27)

You should shut down the Input/Output FRS services BEFORE you make the path change.


substring :us: (BOB member since 2004-01-16)

Our setup is on AIX server. We are on BO R3.1. Please suggest location and commands in respect to AIX (or unix) and BOR3.1 deployment.


avbaby :india: (BOB member since 2009-05-09)

Just use the CMC method as explained above, that will work in V3.1 on AIX.


Orange :netherlands: (BOB member since 2006-09-18)

where can I see this in the CMC?


di652 (BOB member since 2005-02-24)

CMC -> Servers. Locate either an InputFileRepository or OutputFileRepository, and open its properties. The “File Store Directory” parameter will either show a specific value (i.e., the actual path used), or a placeholder name: “%DefaultInputFRSDir%”. If you see the placeholder, you can click on the Placeholders tab – the actual location of the default path will be there.


joepeters :us: (BOB member since 2002-08-29)

I clicked on Servers once I logged into CMC but I don’t see any FileRepsitory server or file …
maybe I need to look through all the servers?


di652 (BOB member since 2005-02-24)

Are you in BI4.1? You should see them in the “Servers List” or “Core Services” list.
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joepeters :us: (BOB member since 2002-08-29)

THANK YOU !


di652 (BOB member since 2005-02-24)