difference between Concurrent User and Named User

Can anybody help me with difference between Concurrent User and Named User in BO XI R2

Actually we have 5 licences for Named user and 0 concurrent user. what does it imply?


JK-BO :india: (BOB member since 2008-03-20)

Named … five specific individuals (like John, Sue, Ted, Mary, and Sam) are licensed.

Concurrent … you may have 100 users with access, but only five (any five) can use the software simultaneously.


Dwayne Hoffpauir :us: (BOB member since 2002-09-19)

100 user means one lisenced ID (user name) or some thing else?
will 5 concurrent users use single user id at a time?


Tejas Pujari :india: (BOB member since 2008-03-12)

You might have 100 different IDs defined in the system (100 is just an example), but only five (any five) can be used at any one time. Before the sixth user can log in, one of the first five must log out. I don’t know how this works mechanically, but that’s the intent of concurrent user licensing.


Dwayne Hoffpauir :us: (BOB member since 2002-09-19)

Thanks Dwayne Hoffpauir :smiley:


Tejas Pujari :india: (BOB member since 2008-03-12)

But i don’t understand how is it useful?
i’m which scenario will be applicable for concurrent users…?


Tejas Pujari :india: (BOB member since 2008-03-12)

To me the only usefulness is (possibly) saving money on licensing. Users will hate it!


Dwayne Hoffpauir :us: (BOB member since 2002-09-19)

True, but being an administrator i like this feature as your server won’t ever crash once you tune it for the concurrent licences you have…he…he… :rotf:


Anand Gupta :india: (BOB member since 2008-03-03)

yes i agree too on that with both u guys


bhuvandeep :india: (BOB member since 2008-01-03)

But Anand if i have suppose 200 users using one single report at a time (my requriment is like that only)…
then how is good from admin. side


Tejas Pujari :india: (BOB member since 2008-03-12)

Hi Guys, thanks for replying…
Now that I got clear Idea of Named user and Concurrent user, I think Named user should be more cost effective than concurrent users.

e.g. I can have 100 users logged in simultaneously with only 1 Named User ID… (actually that will save lots of time and effort put by an admin to configure or manage 100 distinct user’s security rights)

Why you should buy a licence to restrict simultaneous no. of users ?? Isn’t there any feature in BO to control no. of users accessing a universe conn, or to restrict no. of users logging in to infoview or may be restrict users through Connection Server or CMS, any idea?


JK-BO :india: (BOB member since 2008-03-20)

Whatever gave you that idea?

A named user is a specific person. That person may log in using their account. You cannot have 100 different people using the same “named user” account. :?


Dave Rathbun :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-06)

Are you sure about this, because I’ve had a different experience. I tried logging in with same id (Named user) on 2 different machines and was successfull in doing so. Even multiple connections on both machines could be done. Please explain it .


JK-BO :india: (BOB member since 2008-03-20)

It is not a technology issue, it is a licensing issue. There is nothing in the product that will prevent you from doing what you say. But the legal agreement says otherwise.


Dave Rathbun :us: (BOB member since 2002-06-06)

With the arrival of XI concurrent user licenses are no longer sold anyway. Although the Edge product line, aimed at the mid-market, is geared towards licenses making use of concurrent users, albeit up to a maximum of 20.


wahey :netherlands: (BOB member since 2007-05-31)

CPU licenses give you the best of both worlds :slight_smile:

See attached picture!
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JornGH (BOB member since 2003-02-21)

Guys,

It’s been a long time that I posted anything on the forum and now I hate to post a licensing question. I am just looking for general guidance.

1- Can named user licenses be used across test, dev, and Prod servers?

2- In my previous project which was a server based deployment, Dev server was free and test server was half the Prod server cost. Is this pretty standard?

3- According to my knowledge, there is no limit on the number of users if I am on a Server based deployment. I just wanted to confirm this as well.

Thanks,
Kashif


Kashif Saeed :pakistan: (BOB member since 2004-06-02)

Licence questions should probably best be directed to your account or partner manager.

Regarding your question number two. This seems pretty standard, but it would be best if you could get that in writing from the above.

If you mean CPU licence when you’re referring to a server based deployment, yes, this is true.


wahey :netherlands: (BOB member since 2007-05-31)

Correct, which is why it is VERY important to have either CONCURRENT or CPU licenses if you are using a “generic application account” (eg. ABC_APPLICATION) to access the BOE infrastructure via the SDKs.

Your Application may be serving reports to 1,000’s of end-users, but the BOE server only sees them as the one “generic application account”.

NAMED account licenses are only legally-compliant with SDK applications if you are passing the specific BOE-account info for each application-user (eg. SMITHJ) to the CMC when you make your report requests via the SDKs.


MJRBIM :canada: (BOB member since 2007-03-23)

We’re moving from seagate 7.5 to boe xi r2…

Our License totals show 36 named and 64 concurrent…

We’re using Active Directory authentication for Single-Sign-On and have an active directory group (seagate) that we add all users we want to allow access to boe…

Looks like we were emailing reports as attachments because we had more users than licenses in 7.5…

In BOE we want to stop emailing attachments and just email hyperlinks to users and I’m unsure how our licensing will limit our ability to do so.

Would the licensing scenario I describe above allow us to include as many active directoy accounts (users) as we want to the active directory group (seagate) and have only 64 (#concurrent licenses) of them logged in at any one time? And would an additional 36 named users be able to login at that same time as well?


conardb (BOB member since 2008-02-29)