What's new in DataService 4.0 - sign up for RampUp

DS 4.0 install needs a BOE 4.0 instance. Either the full one or we provide you with a Mini-CMC under the covers.

Nevertheless it has some interesting features, to name a few:

  • SAP Extractor support, so DS looks to SAP like another BW system and can get the data the same way. A new API was developed for that on the SAP ERP side and needs to be installed via a note or service pack there.
  • ANSI Join support so you can mix inner and outer joins and have better control about the join ranks if needed.
  • Text Data Processing is a new Transform in DataServices to extract structured information out of free form text. Imagine you read a support database and you want to figure out what component failed how often.
  • BOE Integration provides us with BOE security.Still not on Object level but at least on repo level. So in the Management Console you can now execute your repo’s job but not somebody else’s. Just as an example.
  • SAP BW 7.3 DataSource loading is supported finally as BW contains APIs for that
  • DS integrates with Solution Manager and System Landscape Directory of SAP
  • New Validation Transform GUI
  • Various improvements in DQ around Address Cleanse, Global Suggestion List, URAC, GeoCoder, Match
  • A new DQM SDK to build lightweight DQM solutions

The goal of Ramp-Up is not to provide you with a beta version, it rather is a finished product. But we want to roll it out to a limited set of customers first to get their impression. We provide you on the other side with special attention on problems you might face. So if you are interested in either one of the features, please sign up for RampUp.

I can nominate people for it, just either send me an email or post here. Information I will need is

  • Customer name
  • Customer number (if applicable)
  • Country
  • Customer Contact Person
  • Start of implementation date
  • Planned go live with this release
  • Features you are interested in to test

Werner Daehn :de: (BOB member since 2004-12-17)

Werner,

What is the estimated release date for DS 4.0?

Also, is the 64 bits support for client tools (i.e. Designer) included in this release?

Regards,

Andrés


aidelia :argentina: (BOB member since 2006-02-02)

Expect December for RampUp start.
There will be a 32bit and a 64bit version of the Windows Designer application available for install.


Werner Daehn :de: (BOB member since 2004-12-17)

Hi Werner,
Still no 64 bit engine for Windows ?

Regards

Achille


Neotheone :it: (BOB member since 2007-03-27)

…and the engine will be 64bit only, including Windows.


Werner Daehn :de: (BOB member since 2004-12-17)

Hi Werner,

“…and the engine will be 64bit only, including Windows.” <— do you mean no 32bit version for window in DS4.0?

Regards
Sam


tw577 :hong_kong: (BOB member since 2010-11-09)

Does it mean that the whole Text Analysis server (like Thing Finder etc) isn’t needed now, and it all has been moved to DI Text Analysis transform? Or, what would be the functional split?


Codehopper (BOB member since 2010-05-14)

Yes and No. Yes, thingfinder moved into DataServices but the TA solution is still available as DataServices cannot cover all cases, e.g. with DS you cannot parse pdf files.


Werner Daehn :de: (BOB member since 2004-12-17)

The pre-registration is over, anybody else who wants to be added can register themselve via

Partner: (Nomination Form) https://websmp210.sap-ag.de/partnerportal/rampup
Customer: http://service.sap.com/~form/sapnet?_SHORTKEY=01100035870000715662&


Werner Daehn :de: (BOB member since 2004-12-17)

Werner, is there any word on pricing? Will the license costs and structure stay the same as Data Services XI 3.x (12.x) or will there be changes there as well?


ErikR :new_zealand: (BOB member since 2007-01-10)

There will be an updated pricing but basically everything remains the same. But you get more for the same money, e.g. the Text Data Processing transform is added to all licenses (and existing customers). Remember, pricing is not an area I know much about.


Werner Daehn :de: (BOB member since 2004-12-17)

Wiki on the ANSI-92 syntax

https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/BOBJ/ANSI+92+joins+in+DataServices


Werner Daehn :de: (BOB member since 2004-12-17)

Hi all

DS 4.0 cool… It’s very close to a fully integrated BI and data integration plattform :slight_smile:

On which date information steward and the cleansing package builder is planned to be available? I’m very curouis about those two tools.

Are there any plans for german text data processing content?

Cheers, Roger


rogerm :switzerland: (BOB member since 2008-05-09)

are there any plans for supporting Teradata’s Temporal feature? Will this be in 4.0?


aparikh :us: (BOB member since 2008-12-23)

Hi All,

Any information on when Data Services 4.0 will go unrestricted available? Nothing on PAM as yet.

Cheers,
Aaron


titmarsh :australia: (BOB member since 2006-08-31)

@aaron: Data Services 4.0 has a medium ramp-up which is scheduled to take 6 monhths. We started ramp-up Dec 10th, so plan is to exit ramp-up and enter unrestricted shipment in June. Current plan is second half of June and alligned with the Data Services 4.0 SP01 release (with Solaris & AIX added to the list of supported OS).
BUT… one thing to keep in mind is that in order to exit ramp-up, some KPIs need to be met internally. Most important KPI is that we need to have about 25 customers participated in ramp-up and 5 of them need to be live in production with the new version. In case we don’t meet these KPIs in June, the ramp-up will be extended untill these KPIs are met.
You can still sign-up for ramp-up to help us reach our KPI ! One important requirement for ramp-up is that SAP consulting needs to be involved as a ramp-up coach (which is not free of charge), but this will guarntee you a smooth upgrade to 4.0 !


bhofmans :belgium: (BOB member since 2007-06-28)

@aparikh : Teradata Temporal support is not part of DS 4.0. We are investigating this for a future release/support packages but is not committed yet. In general Teradata 13 & 13.10 are supported though, just this feature is not supported yet.


bhofmans :belgium: (BOB member since 2007-06-28)

Information Steward - with cleansing package builder as part of it - is scheduled to start ramp-up end of March. You can already signup for this rampup if you are interested.

German text data processing is part of Data Services 4.0 already. But what is missing is the rule pack for sentiment analysis in German - so maybe you are referring to this. The German sentiment analysis + adding many more languages are planned for next the Data Services minor release (4.1 - still in planning phase).


bhofmans :belgium: (BOB member since 2007-06-28)

@bhofmans: Thanks for the update. We’re a relatively new deployment of DS, and unfortunately I can’t see the purse strings opening for more funding towards engaging consultants for ramp-up. The real concern is Windows 7 support and the 64bit job engine. We’ll just have to sit out the next 4 (or so) months.

Cheers,
Aaron


titmarsh :australia: (BOB member since 2006-08-31)

@Aaron: I understand.
In case you didn’t know yet : Windows 7 support -> we added official support in XI 3.2 SP3 as well, this was released last month.
Native 64-bit support will only be available in 4.x.

-Ben.


bhofmans :belgium: (BOB member since 2007-06-28)