We are anticipating 50 simultaneous users in an upcoming installation.
Does anyone have some experience in setting up WebI to accomodate this
many users simultaneously? In particular, we are looking at optimizing
the number of boxes in our clustering. This would be WebI 2.0 using Dell
400+ MHZ dual-processing machines with 512MB RAM.
Also, any caveats in this kind of setup?
Thanks,
Michael
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If you are expecting that many simultaneous users you are going to need to double the memory on the Cluster manager. This is the one thats going to be doing most of the work of communicating with the other nodes and the web server.
I am running dual 200 PRO processors and 1GB of RAM and 15 is starting to tax this system.
Remember HD space is important too!! This is where users store their reports, results, and BO stores its results and caches reports.
Sincerely,
Thomas Nather
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Michael Malone mlmalone@MAIL.SOUTHERNACCESS.NET 03/13 5:17 PM >>>
We are anticipating 50 simultaneous users in an upcoming installation.
Does anyone have some experience in setting up WebI to accomodate this
many users simultaneously? In particular, we are looking at optimizing
the number of boxes in our clustering. This would be WebI 2.0 using Dell
400+ MHZ dual-processing machines with 512MB RAM.
Also, any caveats in this kind of setup?
Thanks,
Michael
Listserv Archives (BOB member since 2002-06-25)
At 07:20 PM 3/15/99 -0800, you wrote:
Hi -
Business Objects, I’m told, says it’s generally better to
have several smaller servers when doing the BO refresh than to have one
Almighty
Server.For what it’s worth,
Tom
Hi Tom:
Just to confirm that I have read the same in the WEBI Guidelines as well
– better to have more servers than one big one!
Regards,
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The recommendation I got to put the money into the server was from Brian Baillod from Business Objects.
By making sure that I have enough memory and processor power on my intial server I can increase my system capacity by adding smaller (slaves) thus making it easier to go back to the money mountain for funding.
You will find once you have this system up and running and you don’t put the time and effort into configuring the server manager with enough memory and processor the performance will degrade twice as fast. For every report you run that is from the client I have seen 12MB eaten up.
Fram had a saying “pay me now or pay me later” if you have to keep going back to get more money before you have shown a success you could end up with a failure, and it will be no fault of Business Objects. When someone gives you a minimum configuration that is the “absolute” minimum that it will take to run their software. From there its up to you.
There shouldn’t be any complaining in this forum about poor performance when the system slows to a crawl with only 10 users logged in. The configuration we are using has proven the software performs very well and our implementation of WEBI has been a huge success.
Sincerely,
Thomas Nather
Penske Logistics
email: Tom.Nather@Penske.com
(216)765-5787
Ph: 216-765-5787
Fax: 216-765-5666
Chander Aggarwal chander@COMPUEXCEL.COM 03/16 5:35 PM >>>
At 07:20 PM 3/15/99 -0800, you wrote:
Hi -
Business Objects, I’m told, says it’s generally better to
have several smaller servers when doing the BO refresh than to have one
Almighty
Server.For what it’s worth,
Tom
Hi Tom:
Just to confirm that I have read the same in the WEBI Guidelines as well
– better to have more servers than one big one!
Regards,
Chander Aggarwal
Listserv Archives (BOB member since 2002-06-25)
I think I am starting to understand now what the problem is. We start getting CORBA errors yesterday for users not located where I am (this includes the server).
We started the performance monitor and with 10 concurrent users running assorted reports both Pentium Pro 200’s (2) are pegged. Memory seems to be holding its own.
But this is why we bought the product because of the clustering option. This whole thing is still a learning experience for us and BO.
Sincerely,
Thomas Nather
Penske Logistics
email: Tom.Nather@Penske.com
(216)765-5787
Ph: 216-765-5787
Fax: 216-765-5666
Tom Flaherty tfi@IBM.NET 03/15 10:20 PM >>>
Hi -
At the site I’m currently working, we’ve been dealing with exactly this issue. We
have Webi 2.01 on 1 server (4 pentiums (200s?), 2GB RAM), and have been doing
stress testing to get a feel for what the box can handle. If we try to have 30
users simultaneously refresh a report created in WebI, we get excellent response
time, along with the occasional “This page is empty” message, which seems to fix
itself when you hit Reload on the browser toolbar.
However, if we try to get 10 users refreshing a report that was created in BO full
client, our performance slows to a crawl, and many people get timeout errors.
Last Friday we clustered another server to the original one, and it seemed to
solve the timeout errors, though performance was still slow when refreshing BO
full client reports. Business Objects, I’m told, says it’s generally better to
have several smaller servers when doing the BO refresh than to have one Almighty
Server.
For what it’s worth,
Tom
Michael Malone wrote:
We are anticipating 50 simultaneous users in an upcoming installation.
Does anyone have some experience in setting up WebI to accomodate this
many users simultaneously?
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