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Project Plan for Upgrading BO 6.5 to BO XI

Dear BOB members,

My company is looking to upgrade its existing BO 6.5 infrastructure to BO XI. I would like to come up with a project plan for the project. I am very familiar with BO 6.5, but don’t know much about BO XI.

Here are my questions:

1 - Has anybody gone through a similiar process?
2 - Can anybody tell me where to find such a project plan or task list I can take as a starting point?

I will really appreciate your insights and/or ideas on this topic. I understand the whole upgrade process is fairly complex, so a task list or a project plan would be very helpful in getting started.

Best regards, and thanks in advanced!

JuanC


Juanc (BOB member since 2004-12-02)

Have you used the Assessment tool from BusinessObjects for migrations? I have it if you wanna try it out. Its sort of rudimentary but has some good info. Lemme know

Colin


bluehammock (BOB member since 2007-02-22)

How can I get this assessment tool?


Juanc (BOB member since 2004-12-02)

Hi,

Migrate to Xir2 is a classical Business Objects project except for two significant points inherited from Crystal : security and architecture.

Concerning security you can find a lot of posts on this topic.

Have a look to this one first where you can find two presentations on new security concepts.

Regards

JuanC, it depends on how complex your 6.5 environment is, the migration could be troublesome.

If you have a complex environment, I strongly suggest you to hire a consultant who has done it before (that is the KEY!!!) to guide you thru. Business Objects Global Service is very good at that. I have very good experience with their consultants. Many of the BOBers here are also well-qualified.

As Goiffon and Smith has pointed out, security set up is a major, major issue. You MUST rebuild it from the ground up. While you are redesigning it, consider setting up the data security in the data mart where it belongs. It will save yourself a lot of grief. This topic has been discussed numerous times on BOB. Just do a search and you will find all the threads.

Hope this helps.


substring :us: (BOB member since 2004-01-16)

I created a migration task / checklist that I have been promising to hand out - let me drag it out and tidy it up a bit.
I’ll push it to BOB’s downloads on the weekend.


MikeD :south_africa: (BOB member since 2002-06-18)

Juan, it is a pretty generic tool, just gives some general guidelines from BO based on the functionality you are currently using etc. You can email me @ colinfleming88@yahoo.com and I’ll send it to you if you’d like.

Colin


bluehammock (BOB member since 2007-02-22)

Hi Colin,
I am also looking for such a too. If you can also send it to me …it will be appeciable.
Thanks alot.
Sam.


sam2056 (BOB member since 2006-10-05)

Also: http://bobjects.com/migration/nuts_and_bolts3/Migration_Tools_v7.pdf


MikeD :south_africa: (BOB member since 2002-06-18)

A couple people emailed me @ colinfleming88@yahoo.com, to request that BOBJ XIr2 migration tool. Somehow the emails disappeared, I didnt delete them, I guess Yahoo snagged them! Sorry, but if you email me again (or try my work email @ colinf@bluehammock.com to be sure) I’ll send the xcel tool to ya.

Colin
colinfleming88@yahoo.com


bluehammock (BOB member since 2007-02-22)

A generic plan has been uploaded BOE XI Migration Plan


MikeD :south_africa: (BOB member since 2002-06-18)

Hi.
For your information, there is a tool called 360 view for security migration. It allows you to clean your v5-6 registry and shows you all the folders mappings you have to create in order to have 0 post migration cost.

Hope this will help


Correges and Smith :fr: (BOB member since 2007-02-26)

Hi Mike,

I am unable to open the migration tools url that you had provided
http://bobjects.com/migration/nuts_and_bolts3/Migration_Tools_v7.pdf

Is there an alternative url to access the pdf ?

Thanks,
Pravin


pravink81 :india: (BOB member since 2004-06-30)

I suggest you to use the Import Wizard, it’s very easy.

To migrate from 6.5 to XI R2 I suggest:

  • don’t migrate all objects once, but, migrate with incremental steps, groups of universes and related objects

  • don’t migrate security rights: the CMC is too different to Supervisor: create groups, members and folders according to new architecture, don’t preserve the old structure

For the incremental migration:

  • Since from 6.5 the objects are migrated on the unique folder named “Document”, I suggest you to use a transitory server , with XI R2 installed (i.e., a VMware or VBox machine), to park all objects deriving from 6.5, then you can migrate from here to the right destination folders/groups you created

Ciao :slight_smile:


v.pisano :it: (BOB member since 2005-03-09)

Hi Vincent,

Thanks for the reply. We are migrating from XI R2 to XI R3, and not from 6.5. Would you still recommend not to migrate the Security rights ?

Pravin


pravink81 :india: (BOB member since 2004-06-30)

Since you have audited your security beofre the migration then you can migrate it using the import wizard and then take advantage of the new xi3.x security concepts …

Oops! I misunderstood!
No, for XI R2 to XI R3 is totally different. You can full migrate, groups and rights included, the environments are similar and tool is the same :slight_smile:

ciao,


v.pisano :it: (BOB member since 2005-03-09)

[quote:e2641809e9=“v.pisano”]Oops! I misunderstood!
No, for XI R2 to XI R3 is totally different. You can full migrate, groups and rights included, the environments are similar and tool is the same :slight_smile:

ciao,
[/quote]

No the security model are different…

For example if you have setup a No Access right between the Everyone group and the root folder in Xir2 you had setup a closed system without any impact since the first level door (root folder) is transparent. In xi3.x using this right (so migrating it) nobody will able able to see any folder…

Yes, right, I agree, mr Goiffon, I say is similar, not identical; but only for migration, I think, is not necessary to split steps: you can migrate once, and after you must apply updates according to new philosophy of security on 3.x. and other

ciao,


v.pisano :it: (BOB member since 2005-03-09)