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Gartner BI Magic Quadrant

It’s just about time for Gartner to release their 2014 BI Magic Quadrant whitepaper.

Last year SAP just narrowly made it into the top quadrant, because of a low ranking on the ‘ability to execute’ axis.
What about this year? Will SAP be in or out?


Tom Thompson :us: (BOB member since 2003-06-04)

Hmm, well I like to think things have got better…but I suspect my criteria are not the same as Gartner’s :wink:


Nick Daniels :uk: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

Do you mean new version 4.x sp X is better now? :roll_eyes:
we still work on 3.1 and will be happy to know that, finally :wink:


summoner :hong_kong: (BOB member since 2008-12-18)

The 2014 magic quadrant has been released.
Tableau and Qlikview did really well. SAP pulled up on the ability to execute axis. http://www.gartner.com/technology/reprints.do?id=1-1QYUTLE&ct=140220&st=sb


Tom Thompson :us: (BOB member since 2003-06-04)

Thanks for sharing.

It is great to know SAP BO 4.1 is much better for execute now. However, I remember the “vision” is lower comparing with last year.

For QlikView, ability for execute is good, but not easy for complex dashboard in developer’s point of view . For simple dashboard, that’s correct but many other BI tools work great as well. :evil:
It is also mentioned in the report that the administration and security is below average. I have no idea how companies work on Live environment in the first place.


summoner :hong_kong: (BOB member since 2008-12-18)

Hi,

Thanks for sharing.


Marek Chladny :slovakia: (BOB member since 2003-11-27)

Ummm, according to this article:

Did the SAP Support Portal get upgraded when I wasn’t looking? Or are they referring to the testimonial section on sap.com?


JPetlev (BOB member since 2006-11-01)

Looks like SAP/BO moved UP quite abit (versus last years Gartner), and Microstrategy has dropped DOWN quite abit (likely due to overall Cost & product complexity)…


Captspeed :us: (BOB member since 2006-10-03)

Did anyone checkout report 2015? :wink:

http://www.gartner.com/technology/reprints.do?id=1-2ADAAYM&ct=150223&st=sb


summoner :hong_kong: (BOB member since 2008-12-18)

Yep, amusingly my current client is getting rid of SAS and replacing it with BO…If SAP go any lower they won’t be in the Leader’s quadrant. “Ability to Execute” - well you can find many examples on here and elsewhere of a distinct lack of said quality.


Nick Daniels :uk: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

Several years has passed. SAP BO continues to stay low :rotf:
That makes me wondering what they have done to improve user experience


summoner :hong_kong: (BOB member since 2008-12-18)

SAP are low, and IBM etc, because Gartner Decided to focus this quadrant on Visualisation tools. The quadrant would look vastly different if it was based around BI platform, or Enterprise reporting.

Contrary to what people think, enterprise reporting is still important and very common!


ABILtd :uk: (BOB member since 2006-02-08)

Correct. Unfortunately the quadrant also gives people a false and often expensive lesson that Tableau isn’t a reporting tool. Just waiting for a certain bank to announce serious issues…

We had this with Qlik a few years ago, it was great at the visual stuff, then people ask for ‘proper’ reports, which it can`t do…at which point they try and sell you nPrinting which is extra. You casually walk past and say…“Could have done all that in Webi mate”.


ABILtd :uk: (BOB member since 2006-02-08)

Must admit, I don’t hear much about Qlikview any more.

I have been hearing about Qlik in our organisation more and more :frowning: More and more business units plan to leave Business Objects and to start using Qlik instead.


Marek Chladny :slovakia: (BOB member since 2003-11-27)

So you learn a new skill and are well placed when they want to come back to BO…


Nick Daniels :uk: (BOB member since 2002-08-15)

Have you asked them about reporting requirements?

+1000

Gartner MQ works on execution/vision but does so without interpreting enterprise vs. non-enterprise (and Tableau SMB is where most thrust is).

To appreciate enterprise “muscle”, the G2Crown quadrant illustrates this a bit better

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY-IAOAWkAM_drr.jpg:large

note: yes, the x/y trajectories are different, so it’s not apples to apples in some ways, but offers a difference perspective


Atul Chowdhury (BOB member since 2003-07-07)

I have been looking at BI jobs with a focus on BOBJ implementations for a few months and I’ve seen quite a few asking for Qliksense primarily with BOBJ/Tableau/Microsoft BI/OBIEE being common in the “or similar tools like…” sections. I would say overall, though, Microsoft stack with Power BI and Tableau via SQL queries for data are easily the leaders in the fight for second place behind BOBJ in serious enterprise analytics.

His problem as I see it isn’t necessarily having to learn something new, it’s that the expectations on the developers/analyst/BI departments in general are going to be set by execs and/or upper management (who also have an inordinately strong voice in the tool’s selection in many cases depending on the structuring). They then want the tool to do all the things BOBJ did/could have done and explaining the issues over and over either makes you look like you’re blaming the tool or the BI department look like a weak cog in the organization to someone who doesn’t understand the implications of the original decision.

On the exact opposite hand, there certainly are tool-blamers who don’t really care what tool they’re made to use and will find a way to make everything bad. We have a department who is leaving BOBJ behind for Tableau because “the data warehouse is broken” is their default conclusion to any issue. I give it about 6 months before they’re looking hard at Power BI because Tableau is bad and doesn’t work…


tendernips (BOB member since 2017-07-27)